Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

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Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby james » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:27 pm

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AllMovie wrote:Maverick experimental filmmaker Jon Jost was among the most innovative and influential independent directors in contemporary cinema; dubbed "the American Godard" by critics, his singular creative approach — equal parts elliptical narrative sensibility, ravishing visual style, and potent socio-political commentary — emerged as one of the most unique and provocative voices of its time. Born in Chicago, Jost was the product of a military upbringing, and was raised in areas of the globe ranging from Kansas to Japan to Germany. Expelled from college in 1963, he made his first 16mm short subjects a short time later; a self-taught filmmaker, he not only wrote and directed all of his subsequent feature work, but also served as his own photographer and editor.

Like Tuco+Dwoskin, I’m obliged to state that his work certainly is not for everyone, but the rewards are plentiful for those who try (and you should!). Those of who have the opportunity to see his films through the proper channels (Netflix has two!!) should do it, as the transfers on his films are rather lackluster as it is. In a sense, Jost makes the most exciting films I've ever seen, simply because his perspective and execution are so startlingly original and inventive that I'm completely in the dark as to how he'll choose to tell his story. And, while heavily formal in their method, Jost's most well-known films are undeniably acts of storytelling (however elliptical and intangible), tales from the American backwoods, full of pain and loneliness and isolation and murder and sex and everything else that makes his country great. And they're often very funny, and at least for me, consistently "entertaining". I love his films in a way I love the work of no other director (and I've only seen seven!).

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FILMOGRAPHY (clicking the titles takes you to the film’s entry on Jost’s site featuring reviews and an often very insightful reflection on the film by Jost himself; year takes you to IMDb)
* = on KG, ** = on KG + Eddie's pledged to put it on TPB (I'll put up whatever he doesn't)
Speaking Directly (1973) **
Angel City (1976)
Last Chants for a Slow Dance (1977) **
Chameleon (1978)
Stagefright (1981)
Slow Moves (1983)
Bell Diamond (1986)
Plain Talk & Common Sense (1987)
Rembrandt Laughing (1988) *
Sure Fire (1990) *
All the Vermeers in New York (1990) **
Frameup (1993) **
The Bed You Sleep In (1993) *
Uno a me, uno a te e uno a Raffaele (1994) * At this point, Jost switched to digital, and almost all of these films are unavailable, save for ordering on Jost’s own site (though I don’t think he has all of them ready to sell)
London Brief (1997)
Nas Correntes de Luz da Ria Formosa (1999)
6 Easy Pieces (2000) *
Roma - un ritratto improvvisario (2000)
Muri romani (2000)
Oui non (2002)
Vergessensfuge (2004)
Homecoming (2004) *
Chhattisgahr Sketches (2004)
Passages (2004)
La Lunga Ombra (2005)
Over Here (2007)
Parable (2008)
Rant: The Restless Eye (2008)

There are also copies of several of his films on trackers like Cinemageddon, Pass the Popcorn, and Secret Cinema.

MY RATINGS/REVIEWS
The Bed You Sleep In 10
Last Chants for a Slow Dance 10
Surefire 9.5
Frameup 9.5
Homecoming 9.5
All the Vermeers in New York 9
Speaking Directly 9

I hope those of you unfamiliar with his work find it a worthwhile experience to dive in to. :) Jost is a gr8 man!
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby wigwam » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:46 pm

seen:
Bed You Sleep In - turned off/i uses to be a douchetard
Last Chants - 9/10

after loving Last Chants and having a few at my LA vid store i was aiming to go in chronological order but couldnt find Chameleon anywhere, and when I tried to order it thru his site Jon Jost himself gave me info for a guy in Seattle who had it, and tried to get me into the newer digital films, which i'd be down for now if i had some extra scratch but i'm savin' up to go back to accounting school in the fall :(

to see:
Rembrandt Laughing
All Vermeers
Sure Fire
Bed You Sleep In
FrameUp
6 Easy Pieces
Homecoming
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby james » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:54 pm

that sucks about Chameleon; I'm definitely going to try and order a couple this month, probly Bell Diamond and Slow Moves which seem to be the best ones I haven't seen. you should try and see Speaking Directly if you can; it's very much in the Ici et Ailleurs-Godard mold, rad commentary on language, perception, communication, etc.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby wigwam » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:01 pm

also note on his website:

SPECIAL DEAL: We have a mess of DVDs that have various "flaws" - misprinted covers, only play on PC, and other such errors. If you buy one good DVD for regular price, you can get one of these for $5. Buy 3 for regular price and I'll toss in a few of these gratis.

i'm gonna inquire again about Chamelon and maybe Bell Diamond
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby wigwam » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:02 pm

james wrote:you should try and see Speaking Directly if you can; it's very much in the Ici et Ailleurs-Godard mold, rad commentary on language, perception, communication, etc.


hmmm, HMMMMM :plot:
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Carmelo » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:59 pm

The Bed You Sleep In is on netflix instant watch, so I'll probably start there.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Eddie Spaghetti » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:36 pm

when you said i do oh but i don't believe in you
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Elephant_Gun » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:19 am

which one should I start with,


WHICH ONE?!?!??!


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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby james » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:30 am

you would love Speaking Directly, Mr. Gun. and Frameup too, I think...
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Lauren » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:38 am

What about me, what about meee? *bounce*
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby james » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:11 am

vermeers. it's l'eclissealicious
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Lauren » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:30 am

:salute: I put that in my queue a while back, I think. Awwww yeah!
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Ally » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:27 am

james wrote:vermeers. it's l'eclissealicious

does it have Monica Vitti in it? :wuv:
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Elephant_Gun » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:27 pm

james wrote:you would love Speaking Directly, Mr. Gun. and Frameup too, I think...



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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Jake Aesthete » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:10 am

james wrote:vermeers. it's l'eclissealicious


True that.

I will watch Last Chants this month (and definitely Chameleon if that comes through)
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby snb » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:04 am

The Bed You Sleep In 9.5
All the Vermeers in New York 9
Last Chants for a Slow Dance 7
Frameup 4

Very hit or miss, mostly because he's obsessed with retarded video editing/effects and tends to ruin even his most mature work with obnoxious editing concepts. I don't think I ever want to see any of his digital features for that reason and what I've seen of Homecoming and 6 Easy Pieces was a load of immature shit. Frameup is absolutely fucking terrible as well, like a Tarantino movie with the editing of a 14 year old Tarantino fan...

I've had Sure Fire and Rembrandt Laughing downloaded for ages, but I'm not exactly eager to see them after being let down by the majority of his work besides the first two I've seen. If someone reliable tells me they're great I might watch them.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Jake Aesthete » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:57 am

Huh, from what i've seen so far i'd actually call Jost's hyper-formalist editing patterns the thing i like most about his films.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby snb » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:16 am

I don't think we mean the same thing. I'm talking about stuff like the splitscreen montages in Bed or the awful "hey I got this new video editing software what does that button do oh cool"-dissolves in Homecoming. His actual editing and sense of rhythm is great, but I could definitely live without everythinng that's not a hard cut - which goes for any movie, really.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Jake Aesthete » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:26 am

i didn't mind the splitscreen montages in Bed. In fact, the whole opening part of that movie at the mill is some of the best editing i've ever seen, with all those cuts between different 90 degree angled shots and stuff i dunno how to explain it really. I guess that isn't so much the editing as the camera angles, but i really like the extreme formalism of it all the same. And like how in both Bed and Vermeers where he'll fragment dialogue scenes so you start with like a frontal shot of the person not talking and cut to the other person two minutes later, is totally great.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby snb » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:01 am

I don't even remember any of that. I watched all of Jost's films when I was completely obsessed with slow tracking shots a la Tarr and Tarkovsky, so that's basically all I remember about them. Needless to say that, at the time, I thought the best way to edit a movie is to not cut within sequences at all (come to think of it though, didn't he do that a lot in Vermeers and Bed? I remember cutless dialogue sequences where he just panned between characters over and over without cutting). I didn't really pay attention to any other formal aspects of editing. All I know is I hated the montages, and I still hate montages and any kind of dissolves in general. All a movie should ever have is hard cuts.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Jake Aesthete » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:13 am

You can't possibly actually mean that you hate montages, considering that Farewell Falkenberg is one of your favorites and that film feels like 90% montage. I agree about dissolves though, although i don't mind fade-outs and fade-ins.

I have pretty strict ideas about how a movie "should" be (no zooms, no cranes, no dollies, no conventional coverage...) but at the same time i'm pretty sure every film i love breaks at least a few of these rules, which i think just means that abstract ideals and actual art are two completely different things, and a great artist can pull off anything even if i think i don't like it in an ideological/aesthetic sense. I mean, where would Bertolucci or Egoyan be without their majestic panning crane shots? I can tell myself that i dislike that stuff on principle, but when i watch their films it's not like i'd actually want it to be shot differently...
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby snb » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:21 am

I'm not so sure that I actually know what 'montage' refers to then... I mean multiple, different images forming one image (like the splitscreen... montage?) or like, images flashing up quickly within scenes/sequences. I can't really explain it.
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby Jake Aesthete » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:31 am

Montage just means a series of shots linked together, usually with music or voice-over behind it (as opposed to a "scene" which is spacially/temporally unified). Montage (which is really just French for "editing") is basically the fundamental element of cinema, that separates it from theater (although of course Andre Bazin and Tarkovsky would both disagree).
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby snb » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:35 am

Okay then I guess I love montages. :lol:

"Montage" is also a German word meaning "installation", so maybe that was what confused me...
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Re: Jon Jost, curated by James, MoM July 2009

Postby wigwam » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:16 pm

watched Bed You Sleep In and it was great - does anyone know if this was DV or how he shot it? i love the colors, the bronzishness of everything, even tho i saw it on netflix instant so it's especially shitty contrast

also, whenever they read that letter it made me wonder what it was like back then writing letters, i cant even wait for new posts here or email responses or anything, i'd go fucking nuts days and weeks waiting for a letter to come back, crazy
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